Shurik, We are not closet... we are open..
and why don't you just to that... what you mentioned below, comrade.

Sorry, Oleg I don't think we are meant to see the day when things like "Black MBA", "Black Engineers Association", Black Entertainment Network, etc are considered as racist as if there was a White Network or White MBA's Organization. And until it is no longer acceptable to use Black as some kind of special defining quality there will not be any end to the race factor in politics.

how racist does one have to be notto see thatinserting "white" in the title of most of these associations would berather redundant.

there's also a long list of various professional women's organizations, for pretty much the same reasons...

Lina, so let me understand, you are saying that when you view any TV Network that is not BET or see any organization that doesn't have the word "black" in its title you see them as inherently strictly WHITE??? So who's the racist here???

I assume that many professional organizations are predominantly white - and some are still primarily male.

So does it mean that the people who are not members of those organizations are not adequate professionals in any of the fields?
Also, are you saying that the women are inferior, because they cannot make it there as well?
I did not take for anti - feminist... oh, well...

I am actually very much against organizing based on race, nationality, or related things... However, as far as woman's causes go, it is different, I mean, how else would you define , say , an organization that is fighting female genital mutilation in Africa? Or a working group that is making sure women have breaks to pump breast milk at work?

I mean, how else would you define , say , an organization that isfighting female genital mutilation in Africa? Or a working group thatis making sure women have breaks to pump breast milk at work?
human rights movements?

Mike, I mean specific female -related issues.
It took about 20 years to pass this breastfeeding law. And totally normal sane people who were advocating healthy nutrition were also labeled in the process "feminists", "radical", whatever...