Actually this is a very interesting development (the death of Ted Kennedy-пусть ему земля будет пухом), now dems are left with only 59 votes...
In 2004, whenJohn Kerry was running for president, and Romney was the governor,democrats in MA passed a law that the governor could no longer appointa senator (in case of resignation), and they must have specialelections within 145 days...
now it's biting them in theirbehind, because they don't want to be w/out a senator for five months,and are thinking about changing the law again...now tell me ifdemocrats love democracy?? (tr)

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Sending a Message with the Census
I haven't gotten my letter from the Census Bureau yet asking me to make sure I fill out the questionnaire. But when I do fill it out, I'll use it to send a message.
Fully one-quarter of the space on this year's form is taken up with questions of race and ethnicity, which are clearly illegitimate and none of the government's business (despite the New York Times' assurances to the contrary on today's editorial page). So until we succeed in building the needed wall of separation between race and state, I have a proposal. Question 9 on the census form asks "What is Person 1's race?" (and so on, for other members of the household). My initial impulse was simply to misidentify my race so as to throw a monkey wrench into the statistics; I had fun doing this on the personal-information form my college required every semester, where I was a Puerto Rican Muslim one semester, and a Samoan Buddhist the next.

But lying in this constitutionally mandated process is wrong. Really — don't do it.
Instead, we should answer Question 9 by checking the last option — "Some other race" — and writing in "American." It's a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. In fact, "American" was the plurality ancestry selection for respondents to the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.
So remember: Question 9 — "Some other race" — "American". Pass it on.
By Mark Krikorian

in their own words..(ch) dems against dems..
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IS THIS THE CHANGE YOU VOTED FOR?
From JFK and Camelot.
TO
B.H.O and Lies-A-Lot.
From Washington who never told a Lie.
TO
B.H.O who never told the truth.
From Ask what you can do for your Country.
TO
What you WILL DO for B.H.O!

it's CENSUS... the whole idea of it is to get as much information as possible.. i see no harm of asking about the race or any other personal characteristics.

I don't see why it's important for the government to know what race or religion the people who are poor, for example ... or even their sexual orientation ... or now they'll start implementing policies according to the data collected: 10% of the homosexual population are below the poverty level, what kind of policies would help eliminate that??
if you ask me - idiotic..if American citizens are having problems, how is it important if they are christian, black or lesbians?? it's all political pondering and race-bating..

Светлана с вами иногда трудно понять или вы шутите
или просто тупик? Не ужели это так трудно? На пример
если есть дети, то наверняка школам нужно больше денег.
Например если больше людей которые говорят по испански
то нужно добавить переводчика в государственных учереждениях
и так далее и тому прочее.
Это же не советский союз ;)

The first census was taken in 1790, under Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson... isn't questioning the actions of the founding fathers tantamount to sacrilege?

Маш, поставь этот ролик еще раз..как раз в тему..;-)
is anyone against taking census??..why does the government need to know people's race?? to let them feel victims or for pandering..

collecting statistical information about the population of a country as a whole ( aside from just the headcount ) has an enormous number of uses.
on race, here is from FAQ
Asked since 1790. Race is key to implementing many federal laws and is needed to monitor compliance with the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act. State governments use the data to determine congressional, state and local voting districts. Race data are also used to assess fairness of employment practices, to monitor racial disparities in characteristics such as health and education and to plan and obtain funds for public services.

Sveta, if you were reading results of, say, German census, wouldn't it be curious to find out how many Jews or Turkish immigrants are on welfare there compared to German -born.
I want to know similar stuff here...
and politicians use all this stuff for districting, btw

I still don't see the reason why the gov't wants to know the race in the post slavery/civil-rights America..how is it important what race the people are who are on welfare, and what can the government do specifically to help people of that race as opposed to just helping to people on welfare?? give me one example where it would be crucial for the government to know the race of the electorate..

without using too much imagination - medical studies..
looking at the occurrences of specific deceases within different population group and projecting the risk/costs whatever at the population as a whole..

I only see it's importance for politicians. Democrats always benefit from having more minorities in their districts.
The results from this census will be used for redisctricting. Duh:-|
Because of these government policies we will never enter a post-racial society. :-|

Because of these government policies we will never enter a post-racial society. :-|
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Do you mean like Gay Marriage?

Or, they should just honestly proclaim that having a post-racial society is impossible, and stop the BS. ( labeling white people as racists if they refer to someone by their race8oI ).

The results from this census will be used for redisctricting. Duh:-|
just like our founding fathers intended in the constitution.. or we are so "constitutional" only when we feel like it?

the information is also used by sociologists to analyze trends, correlations...

who is redistricting based on race??? redistricting is always based on total population changes.

there is tons of tricky politics in redistricting...take my district, for example, the way it looks on the map, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it includes an affluent suburb and then descends 100+miles south into a total rural area and then into Corning, a mixed population small city...it is very large for campaining, populations are worlds apart on many levels. Always was a very frustrating district for politicians - affluent suburb tends to go democratic, rural area - conservative, and now we have Eric Massa:-D . They constantly are trying to change it....

"just like our founding fathers intended in the constitution.. or we are so "constitutional" only when we feel like it?"
Mike, The Constitution only mentions "enumerating" or counting population every 10 years. There is NO LAW that allows Federal Government to inquire for Census purposes about person's race, age, marital status, how much they make, what time thy go to work and a myriad of other intrusive and frankly unlawful questions.
At some point this will be challenged in the courts. The only reason it hasn't to date is because if you really do not want to answer these questions, the Feds may send a person to your house once or twice, but after that they would usually leave you alone.
But if they try to prosecute someone based on refusal to answer Census questions - expect court challenges.

Natan, there is no law that forbids them to ask these questions either.. If you don't want to answer them you don't have to.
Politicizing census is about as retarded as i have seen..

he-he..it is retarded..are we still allowed to use the R word?? (ch) but that's exactly what the Obama administration has tried to do by moving the census from the Commerce Dept. jurisdiction to White House..

well.. if someone does not like my use of words they can always tell me to go fuck myself.. :)

Mike,
there is also another expression..
don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go (ch) (B)

So. It became perfectly clear that our president is the left wing socialist that some of us feared him to be. He made it clear with making Health Care Bill his priority, losing allies, dooming Democratic party, and acting like an absolute Soros/ Ayers puppet. I would like to hear from people who voted for him. How is this visionary measuring up while your husband is about to loose his job and Pedro from South of the Border will get free medical care paid by your dollars?

Олег, i know 2 people in real life who voted for BHO... they are both embarrassed now..

Шурик, не пойму вас, если вы не любите , чтобы вас контролировал бюрократ, ( или всё-таки тайно мечтаете? Вы наверное испытываете сладостные ощущения в очереди
в DMV?) почему вы поддерживаете Obamacare?(dt)

Shurik, do explain. We are in the middle of the worst recession, the unemployment is double of what it averaged under Bush, RE market is the dumps. And you, Shurik, think that spending 1.3 trillion dollars to offer healthcare to people who decided not to purchase health insurance is a right move?

Mike, I also have a friend who voted for Obama, as well. He is not embarrassed , but rather grossly disappointed.

I never make fun of my friends who voted for BHO and regret noe, but rather quietly rejoice что они прозрели!(fr)

Мария, я не помню когда последний раз ждал в DMV очереди.
Вы же можете сделать appt online?

We are in the middle of the worst recession, the unemployment is double of what it averaged under Bush!
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you mean caused by George Bush?

yep, George W Bush personally causes all the problems in the world, lets move on... my progressive compadre.. Obama has this "issue" covered.

Do you think that administration didn't know banks were giving money away and didn't stop it? It was mainly unregulated greedy bankers seeking profits and Freedie and Fanny insuring them.
Goldman packaging it and selling them to states and counties ;)
everyone was happy. I bet they knew where it will take us but no one wanted to stop the train while everyone was making $$.
Paulson helped his buddies with 1.3 Trillion of $$ to stop the ab bis. Now we don't have the money to help people who need health care because those greedy bankers and others got all the money.

Прибавьте к этому ещё войну в Ираке и афганистане. Сколько денег выбросили?
Теперь Иран имеет ядерное оружие, но средств на борьбу с ними нет. Я считаю
что Иран более опасен чем ирак и афганистан!

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Шурик, вот здесь ответы на ваш вопрос, кто виноват в кризисе. Посмотрите, не поленитесь.(v)