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Khramaya 01.10.2009 00:43

ten commandments , or doctrines of "don't do unto other" ...do not need to stem from any religion. People should be civil to other human beings and good to their environment not out fear of G-d or punishment, but out of normal common sense of what's good for humanity. Makes lots more sense and transcends religious lines.

Mike 01.10.2009 00:47

Svetlana, those laws came WAY before they were recorded in Torah. read secular Hammurabi laws please.. this is the origin of many things in Torah.

Светлана Гэмм 01.10.2009 01:00

...but you do agree that following some doctrines would have a positive effect on crime reduction??...

Mike 01.10.2009 01:06

laws are not doctrines :) they are laws..
if anything if we had no laws we would have no crime.. lol.

Светлана Гэмм 01.10.2009 01:09

that's right...laws are laws, but people have to follow them...so it's almost the same as following the doctrine, is it not?...you don't just look at the data...:-)
just messing with you thin morning :-) ...tell us about your favorite innovations instead...

Лина 01.10.2009 04:10

so if not for the doctrines, you'd be out there robbing and killing, sleeping with your neighbor's wife :-D, and slapping your parents around...?

Khramaya 01.10.2009 05:41

maybe they are not born with moral instincts , but parents who teach them what's moral don't necessarily have to tell them they have to be moral out of fear G-d.


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