Gera, are you always changing topics when you lose an argument? :) what does whatever you mentioned have to do with whatever we just discussed?

Mike, don't the e-mails suggest the "sicentists" have been loweriing the temps of 20 or so years to show that it's been rising?

I did not loose any argument.
The water level measurements data is available. It is sited in "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton...and a real measure of temperature impact on the environment. Since the data measurement began, there is no trend showing change.
The facts are facts.
My "Radical" thinking does not make millions of people live in fear and start paying taxes and endure hardship... yours does.
I am saying leave me alone and I will take care of myself and my family!
You are saying - ... what ever it is you are saying...

Gera, i have read "The State of Fear" and that being a good book is still a fiction..
I am a mathematician before anything.. i have looked at the actual data, not spoon-fed selected bullshit.
The debate is not if the temperatures are rising and not if the oceans are rising, but are we responsible for it or not, and if we are then to what degree.
Svetlana, these emails DO NOT mean that the scientists have been falsifying the temperature reading, what it means is they have been using the smooth-out trick.

My congrats to you, Ira!
You just put yourself in the the same bucket with all of the enemies of the United States as you apply the Constitution and give them equal rights granted by it.
I wonder if they would give you the same respect?

It's actually hysterical to me that Gera and Svetlana consider me a a radical.. :)
My political views are closer to libertarians more then anything..

Mike,
you are not responsible for the rising water level!
Trust me!
Eat your turkey today! it made less CO2 then the cow, which produced the steak I had yesterday!

Gera, you funny :)
I am making chicken btw.. turkey is too big for us, plus it's never tasty :(.
But i do have some omaha steaks in my freezer for Sunday!

Mike, you are saying the debate is whether humans cause it and how...in the minds of Al Gores, the debate is over, they don't want to honestly debate, Al Gore himselves equated human caused GW skeptics to Holocoust deniers...if it wasn't for the other side, we would be paying through our noses for something that's not been proven...and now we are getting even more doubts...

Mike, you are not a radical...but SOME of your views are not mainstream...:-)...and you choose to blame religious people for them (your views) not being mainstream...when I have proven to your time and time, it's not just religious or conservative who don't agree with you...it's the majority of the American people...