End of 2009
Glavnbie dipendencies ato Oil I sena , ely oil pervedyt v Euro, to togda lishb vse nachnetbsia seichas feds ponigayt % no oil povbIshaetbsia, tak chto economika iskystveno poddergivaetbsia. Plys posmotrim kto bidet presidet, ot atogo mnogoe zavisit! (D)

Kak naschet sdelatb american soyz, Canada, Mexico i America! Bydet vremia posmotrite stoit togo:
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ya soglastna s Dmitriem.. v Ameriku slishkom mnogo deneg vlozeno innostrannimi klientami.. kak busha v office ne budet, tak i economika naladitsy.. vi voobshe v kurse chto v u nashego federalnogo reserva chastnie lica investori - vkluchau chlenov sem'i Rockefellers, i vse ostalnie (chelovek 10) INOSTRANCI... vo vsem mire economica s nami zavyazana - ne dadut obvalitsy.. kstati naschot dorog - na nih dengi tratyatsy - no kuda oni idut to? v AMERIKANSKIE chastnie companii - tak chto oni ostautsy v Americanskom oborote - nikuda oni ne denutsy, i detyam nashim za eto ne priydetsy rassplachivatsy.

Anna, otvechu na vashi voprosi po-poryadku:
1) rost cen na benzin (-chto neosporimo rezultat bushevskogo presidenstva) - viz
ivaet inflyaciu - vizivaet rost foreclosures, credits i t.d... foreclosures prisutstvuut vsegda, rost ih kolichestva vizvan neimeniem deneg u ludey. bush razlomal economicu legkomislenno dumaya, chto mi bogataya strana i viderzim. esli sleduushiy president budet democrat - voyska budut vivedeni iz Iraka, i economica zdes nachnet voztanavlivatsy, t.k. elementarno - mi ne budem ispolzovat vse nashi dengi na voynu bolshe.

2) Americanskaya economica - eto kak finansovaya pautinka po vsemu miru, v otlichii ot Rossii, nasha economica imeet ogromnoe kolichestvo inostrannih vlozeniy ot investorov, vkluchaya federalniy reserv, obvalitsy economice v principe prosto nevozmozno.. slishkom mnogo deneg u ludey, mi viydem iz krizisa, kak tolko mi pomenyaem presidenta i viydem iz Iraka.
Anna, vi bili v Rossii v 97-om kogda tam rubl obvalilsy? tak vot America nikogda v takom sostoyanii ne budet, uroven economici i vse stroenie economici sovsem drugoe, v Rossii u ludey togda voobshe deneg ne bilo, i nikakih innostranih investorov..mi togda tolko ot sovetskogo souza izbavilis, mirovaya kartina dly Rossii bila tumannaya - tam takoy obval bil vozmozen, zdes drugaya situacia seychas.

spasibo, Anna, na vash vopros, da ya budu golosovat v etom godu, za kogo - ne znau - kto proydet v final iz demokratov, t.k. za McCaina ya v lubom sluchae golosovat ne budu. vi sami skazali chto ceni na oil rastut po prichine takogogo zelania teh kto etoy industriey upravlyaet - vot vam i vash sobstvenniy otvet na vopros pochemu ya dumau chto Bush v etom zameshan - ego sem'a v oil businesse! on vvel nas v voynu iz-za oil, i on napryamuu svyazan s rostom cen na benzin. kogda vse shtati v ekonomicheskom padenii, vi v kurse chto Texas v 2007 godu surplus $10 billion (eto ne opechatka, ne million a billion!)..

i eto napryamuu svyazano s oil i s Bushem, edinstvennoe v chem ya ne uverena - eto s kotorim iz nih, t.k. kazetsy Bush starshiy prodolzaet prinimat mnogie resheniya za mladshego.. pro McCaina - ne vopros v tom chto on respublikanes ili democrat - ya bi golosovala za Huckabee, esli bi oni pozvolili emu proyti v final, delo v tom chto McCain marionetka - opyat ze on budet delat to ze samoe chto i Bush.. on budet tyanut voynu, on nichego ne izmenit v healthcare i t.d.. esli viberat iz 2-h zol, ya luchshe budu golosovat za Hillary ili Obama.

Na schet Evropy i ceny tam na benzin eto vsyo pravil'no, plus v Evrope esche i ne te territorii i masshtaby, chto by raz'ezzhat' na teh korablyah na kotoryh raz'ezzhayut v Amerike, tam dazhe pust' tak primitivno i mesta to tolkom dlya takih avtomobiley net. Cena na neft' dlya vseh odinakova imeet'sya vvidu te kto eyo zakupaet, a ne kachaet v svoyom sobstvennom ogorode, a vot dal'she uzhe cena zavisit ot nalogov kotorye nakruchivayuts'ya sverhu i u Evropy vozmozhno byli svoi prichiny takih vysokih cen na benzin. PRosto v dannom sluchae esli ssylat'sya na Evropu, to ya mogu skazat', chto vosnovnom i uroven' zhizni v Evrope nizhe chem v US....nu mozhet za isklyucheniye pary troyki stran....kak to ne hotelos' by sleduyya ih puti cenoobrazovaniya na benzin doyti i do urovnya zhizni v Evrope. Ne to chto by tam tak ploho, no v Amerike uroven' zhizni vyshe.

Ya pary mesyatsev nazad priexal iz India. Tam tseni na benzin approx $1.25/litre, pochti $5 za gallon. Zarabotnaya plata ot 2 do 5 dollarov v den'.
Oni ezdyat na bolee ekonomichnix mashinax. Tezhe samie Toyota minivans tolko 4 cylinders i disel. Disel tam deshevle (tak i dolzhno bit' - te kto znaet refinery process soglasyatsya) approx. $0.90/liter.
Tak chto pravilno Dmitrii govorit - drygim xyzhe chem nam dostaetsya.

cena na benzin sravnjalas' s Evropejskoj,,, teper' delo za cenoj na nedvizimost' :-D

История в тему:
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to
have a canoe race on the Missouri River. Both teams practiced long and
hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate
the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior
management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person
steering,while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person
rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a
consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second
opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

продолжение...
Not sure of how to utilize that infor mation, but wanting to prevent
another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure
was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering
superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1
person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called
the' Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners, and
free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new
paddles,canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices
and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.


Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor
performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and
canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was
distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's
racing team was out-sourced to India.


Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about:

Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of
the US, claiming they can't make money paying American wages.


TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US. The last quarter's results:


TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.


Ford folks are still scratching their heads.


IF THIS WEREN'T TRUE, IT MIGHT BE FUNNY.

hahahah , Sereza ! cool story

Ford pokupil Jaguar v 1994 za 6 billionov , a sejchas prodal' za 2 billiona indicam (TATA).... oni proizvodjat samij malen'kij avtomobil, NANO,,, naverno sejchas oni iz JAGUAR budut delat' piko (-12) model' ....
PICO JAGUAR.... kazdomu po karmannomu jaguaru,,,,!!!! napominaet SOVOK

To add to Sergei Shenogin's story - If I am not mistaken all Toyota plants are non union.
(Y)
Have you ever worked in the Union manufacturing facility?

Терпеть не могу Unions. Они плодят бездельников. Вместо того чтоб разбиратся, если какая-то проблема безопасности на рабочих местах, произвол менеджера, и т. д., они защищают бездельников. Это из личного опыта, так как проработал на гос. (штатной) работе почти 9.5 лет (уже там не работаю). Столько за это время я повидал бездельников которых никто не мог уволить - не передать!!! (N) 8oI А все из-за Union (N) 8oI
Вначале Union движения у них был смысл (помогали рабочим в 30-е годы, в частности), а сейчас это защита для бездельников!

Well described Mixail,
today they hurt workers more then help and forcing jobs to go overseas.
First hand experience of being a manager in Union facility.

Terrible ! Terrible unions! For instance Writers guild went on strike over something completely absurd - getting paid for their work distributed over internet. How dare they wanting to get paid for their work. (md)

Slava (@$%$% #$^ %$^^ just for you (lo)), but you are naive to think that work would not go overseas if there were no unions. I mean yea - our computer geek union forced tech jobs to go overseas? ! (sarcasm)

last note (preemptive strike ) , I do not in any way suggest that
unions are perfect, neither is a corporate structure. But I am
completely against demolishing them - they are a necessary economic
force (and
sometimes necessary evil )

..Iya schitauy, kak economist i svyazan s mortgage analysis, - it's going to take at least 2-3 years to get back to the track, first of all the houses prices must stabilized and people would start to believe again and invest in the economy as they did back to end of the 90's and early 2000's....second of all the war in Iraq must be stopped, so the government would start to invest more in social, education and administrative sectors of the economy....those are one of the two key points but I don't want to argue and know there are much more sectors to invest and stabilize to prospect....
P.S...but there is still so much opportunities, even in this time of economy to gain financial stability in "your world".... :-D
Regards,
Nikita

Мой сын недавно взял в университете класс в котором он изучал систему "Lean". "Я у него спрашиваю что же это такое?"
вообЩем он мне долго рассказывал о новой передовой системе труда которую придумали на ТОyota около25 лет назад. Если рабочий придумал что-либо что Облегчает его труд или приносит прибыль производству и увеличивает производительность то рабочему дают премию. Узнаёте систему?! Это наше родное рационализаторское предложение, которое было придумано и внедрено гораздо раньше чем 25 лет назад... НО самое главное в чем собственно и разница что не только рабочий денежки получает а и его вышестоящие начальнички т.е всем выгодно! Поэтому TOYOTA и может продавать дешевле, поэтому то она и впереди.Что вы поэтому поводу думаете как специалисты-финансисты.

there are a lot of factors, but at the end Toyota makes better cars - that is what counts. They did not concentrate just on SUVs they grabbed majority of the hybrid market.
2-3 years of recession is a stretch... i think we are going to be in the mud for 1 -2 ... then real estate should correct itself and credit market will loose another XXX billions and we will go on.

Vladimir (Y) Right on the money. The economy used to be a very slow turning boat, it took a decade for something to happen. Today ? 1-2 years.

real estate:-)
pokupka 'interes only" bula izobretena v 1996 kazetsja,,, gde to togda,,, t.k. Amerikancy uze togda ne mogli platit fixed rate...
1996 -2008.... 12 let..... ljudi pokupajut interes olny v svoem bolshinstve. (dobavlju interes only beretsja na 3, 5, 7 let
sejchas oni :
1. ne mogut pokupat' uze "interes only"...
2. drugie kto kupil interes only ne mogut platit'
3. te kto kupil 5 let nazad prodajut, t.k. ne mogut platit'
4. zavtra budut prodavat' te, kto lupil 3 goda nazad
5. + prosto Amerikancy kto vladel domom 20-30 let
naivno dumat' chto puzir' kotory staratel,no naduvali 12 let ...stabilisiruetsja v techenie 2 let :-D
ceny budut idti vniz,,,,no volnoovrazno,,,,eto normal,noe javlenie

You have to consider the EURO factor, it is causing out economy to move faster than ever. If the plans for next year to have Unified EuroBank go through, you will see it accelerate even further. So yes 2-3 years.

evro factor....
:-D :-D :-D
cherez 3-5 let vy budete rassmatrivat' China factor

Unions are pain on the *ss for any business and industry, and in general, the left as a whole are detrimental for any social system. The strong French Unions are the main reason that this country, despite some natural advantages, trails its neighbors.
American crisis is just a part of Global crisis, and we have all chances to suffer less than our foreign friends/competitor. But if we are stupid enough to choose Demunists – we have all chances that it will be longer than at any other country here – as was the case during the Great Depression. Socialist Roosevelt managed to follow the most irrational and painful path. The US recovered way longer than anybody on earth as a result.

Banality: Unions make companies and even entire industries go down – and the owners look at other countries as a manufacturing ground. The “stronger unions” – the worse the situation. Look at automakers, air carriers and steelmakers – they are in perpetual crises –they suffer the strongest Union omnipresence. Greedy and unreasonable Obama-like ignoramuses inserted their noses even into operational management and systematically prevented companies from investing in modernization and quality. In metallurgy – they even forced to close quality-control labs. Unions prohibit using idle labor to temporarily As a result, nowadays even massive government assistance cannot save the union-contaminated plants. On the contrary, the Union-free plants (mostly on the South) are flourishing

экономический кризис закончитса когда граждане америки начнут покупат автомобили сделаные в сша!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mnogie nikogda ne prekraschali. Bol'she togo, ne menee 90% pokupaemyh amerikancami avtomobilej izgotovleny v US. Moreover:
Many European Cars are built in the US & Mexico to escape the high Euro

a mozet экономический кризис закончитса когда граждане америки ne budut покупат автомобили сделаные в сша...
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abroviation dlja
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FORD - fix or repair daily
a BMW - born moderately wealthy
& AUDY - acsellerates under demonic influence :-D :-D :-D

Jaguar is the bright "example" what may Amerikans do with old-fashioned Europian company

Tata bought Jaguar (Tata does the cheapest world's car "nano").
How about "pico" Jaguar?

Победить кризис можно - бегством, мы это уже однажды все сделали. Былоб куда бежать? Если не куда, то надо строить свое собственное капиталистическое будущее. Конечно сейчас это не просто. Но, как сказал старый еврей - "ну, а шо делать....." Он не закончиться он скорее переростет в другой кризис. Надо успеть порадоваться бензину за $5, чтоб было чего внукам рассказать.

:-) 2000 god Evropa,, ja platila 1$ za litr benzina,,,,

sejchas cena vyshe,,,,,

America - ja uze vspominaju 1.29$ for gallon ( 2001) (md)

Svet, u nas byl men'she dollara za galon v 2001 - eto v socialisticheskoj Kakofonii dorozhe.

This week (05/19) premium gas prices/per galon:
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1- Belgium
2-France
3-Germany
4-Italy
5-Netherlands
6-UK
7-USA
Norway (not shown here) - oil imprter - the highest prices, BTW (due to beasty taxes) - but they paid Arafat terrorists billions (well, they believed that money came to "Palestinian people")

Vot tut nedel'nye ceny nachinaya s 1996:
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