Mike, if you haven't miss out on banya yesterday, you would have meet my commie friend. You don't understand. They are not bunch of wackos who produce clean air as a side effect of their wackiness. They were put on this earth to redistribute wealth. Taxation, expropriation, environmental заламывание рук, all the methods are good to take from the haves and give to have nots. And they got you - moderate "independent" to think that all they care about is clean air in Central Park. The idea is to make a capitalist pay for the right to make money. They are not new to this struggle. They used anti-trust laws, Unions and now this environmental talk to put Big Business on its knees. We lost all of our heavy industry due to environmental laws. We lost Big Three due to Unions choke hold. They will not stop until the rich guy thinks twice before making a next million.

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