Economic rights - such as right to health care, food, housing, job etc.are totally, absolutely, completely incompatible with freedom.
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aren't you also forced to pay taxes, buy car insurance... are yor rights being violated? do you feel enslaved by these laws?

60% of Americans don't agree with it (that's why they want to repealObamacare).. and will land the butts of those who voted for it back towhere they belong - on their coaches.
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are those the same 60% who can barely read and write?

"A negative right to life allows an individual to defend his life fromothers trying to kill him, or obtain voluntary assistance from othersto defend his life"

so if someone tries to kill you by preventing you from having access to food, shelter, and yes, even health care, you have the right to procure the aforementioned items, by any means neccesary.

critics go further to hold that any right can be made to appeareither positive or negative depending on the language used to defineit. For instance, the right to be free from starvationis considered &39; on the grounds that it implies a starvingperson must be provided with food through the positive action ofothers, but on the other hand, as James P. Sterba argues, it might justas easily be characterised as the right of the starving person not tobe interfered with in taking the surplus food of others. He writes:
What is at stake is the liberty of the poor not to be interferedwith in taking from the surplus possessions of the rich what isnecessary to satisfy their basic needs. Needless to say, libertarianswould want to deny that the poor have this liberty. But how could theyjustify such a denial? As this liberty of the poor has been specified,it is not a positive right to receive something, but a negative rightof non-interference.

Real rights are purely negative in terms of what the government has todo - e.g. it merely has to refrain from persecuting you for speakingyour mind (however your free speech right does not impose anyobligation whatsoever on anybody else).
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or one can argue that real rights are positive "Positive liberty consists of the power and resources to act to fulfill one's own potential; as opposed to negative liberty, which is freedom from restraint. "

It's one thing to pay taxes to support government functions. It's a totally different thing to claim economic rights. When somebody says he has a right to health care, he effectively says he has a right to enslave me. Let's make something clear: I don't owe you anything. When you say you have a right to something you can not afford, it effectively means that you want me to work without compensation to provide that something to you. In other words, you want me to perform slave labor for you. And I have a very simple question for you: why? Why do you believe that I owe you anything?!

And , yes, you are right, it will be delivered, but after much humiliation...
Much humiliation happens everyday in the hospitals like that one in Voronezh in the story below ( several pages back). That's real humiliation...
Or in Great Britain, where the "free" healthcare is so broken and the medical personel is so UN-compassionate ( read stories about RN's abusing senior citizens in hospitals)

Economic rights - such as right to health care, food, housing, job etc.are totally, absolutely, completely incompatible with freedom. Those"rights" imply that somebody must provide them. And who is thatsomebody?! You cannot have any rights that impose any obligations onanybody else.

That's right! Very well said!(Y)
Belief in economic rights is pure marxism. It leads to tyranny because people will be forced to provide goods to others at their expense ( taking away their private property, ie. product of their labor).

Andrey, so you believe, as a society, we are willing to have people die on the hospital doorsteps?

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I will make it a point to argue that all those "dreaded" "rights" ( have no idea how a right to be cared when ill fell under economic rights) make first world countries what they are - First world. Third world countries that did not adopt social structures so dreaded by many here continue to look like, ....well, third world countries. Andrej, would you rather live in Denmark or in Guatemala?

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