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post #101 Старый 24.11.2009, 11:17
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so you are saying that the word of god has expired?
to many people - yes, and I was told this group is growing...:-|
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post #102 Старый 24.11.2009, 11:21
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for you, has it expired for you?
i mean if i was a religious freak, who believes that god gave us torah, i would at least believe what it says.. at the minimum that is..
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post #103 Старый 24.11.2009, 12:09
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Mike, why would you call yourself a religous freak? (hu)
no, honey, the Torah doesn't condone prostitution...it's the job of DNC on that federal level of course..(ch)
'No Israelite women shall be a cult prostitute, nor shall any Israeliteman be a cult prostitute. You shall not bring the fee of a whore or thepay of a dog (usually understood to refer to a male prostitute) intothe house of the Lord your God in fulfillment of any vow, for both areabhorrent to the Lord your God (Deuteronomy 23:18-19).' The practicepersisted until King Josiah suppressed it as part of his reforms (2Kings 23:7).
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post #104 Старый 24.11.2009, 12:14
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Mike, let me ask you a personal question...why would you even want to be with a prostitute?...wouldn't you want with a woman who really wants to be with you?...I mean if I was а godless nut, even then I wouldn't lower myself to sleeping with a whore...unless you are talking about a male prostitute?...(dt)
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post #105 Старый 24.11.2009, 12:30
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we don't practice everything Judaism permits today...we evolve :-) ...we don't practise polygamy as well as stoning..
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and yet again, you're saying that the bible is outdated, except for the parts that support your point of view...
furthemore, if we can pick and choose which parts of the bible we should observe and which should be eliminated, can't we do the same with the constitution? or do you consider the latter more sacred? incidentally, both had been written by men - progressive and enlightened for their time, except that the framers of the constitution had enough forethought to make provisions for future amendments.
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post #106 Старый 25.11.2009, 00:04
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Svetlana, why is this always about me??
Do you think Justice Jinsburg wants to be with a prostitute?? It's about personal freedoms, the notion that you seem to hate so much.
Now the passage is clear that no Israeli woman should be a prostitute, but it's also clear god has no issues with other prostitutes. It's also clear from the story of Judah.
Now, if we evaluate the combination of laws in torah it makes sense.
1) For a woman to have pre-marital sex is a deadly sin
2) For a man to masturbate is a deadly sin
3) The only legal way for unmarried man to have release is a non-jewish prostitute.
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post #107 Старый 25.11.2009, 01:34
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I love you interpretations - Clearly! - have you ever applied for the Chief Rabbinate? :-D
В одной еврейской группе видела тему - Измена с неевреем/кой грех?...:-)
well, it's not about what I love or hate...again I listed her views compared to the rest of the people...and clearly :-D she is out of the main stream...
you really want it legalized? why? you want a receipt?:-) how will you bring the product back? ;-)
if we legalize prostitution, we would have to regulate it, rate it (H), subsidize for those who can't afford it, because it becomes a right for everyone not just the rich, it's gonna become the main compaign issue - how to make it affordable, how to improve it...well, yeah, why not? something to think about...should be fun...and then of course, equality...hmmm...wives will use the services too...is it ok with you? just asking...:-)
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post #108 Старый 25.11.2009, 01:53
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what what??
A little too much Mashishevitch this morning?
Prostitution is already legal in Nevada.. the latest bunch of religious freaks who tried to ban it had it on a ballot and it got defeated with 2:1 margin, so maybe your view is a minority, maybe you are a fringe radical?
Regulation of the prostitution is not much different from the regulation of the nail salons or massage parlors.
If it's legal it's a legitimate business that creates jobs and pays taxes.
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post #109 Старый 25.11.2009, 03:12
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I don't drink MaSHinevitch in the morning anymore...I took your advice and smoke pot exclusively from now on, so I can be chill and mellow to continue a debate with you...:-)
I like how you throw at me all the alligations about the various prohibitions...I personally never even had a chance to vote to legalize it or not...but check out what happened in not so conservative and religious California...the majority voted NO on legalizing it...I wonder why..
how about the rest of Ginsburg's views? you are ok with it?
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post #110 Старый 25.11.2009, 03:45
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California voted "no" on legalizing prostitution? when was this put to vote?
Which Ginsburg views? She has written 100s of opinions as a member of supreme court.. and 1000s before that.
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