The most effective way to reduce illegal entries anddefuse these tensions is to expand legal channels, including guestworker programs. This would reduce illegal immigration and free upsecurity resources to threats from drug gangs and the like.
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please, you know if this was Obama's initiative, you'd be the first toyell something about communism, privacy, and violation of your basicrights and freedoms, while waving the constitution and the Americanflag.
If this were obamka's initiative, I would vote for him:-)
Language, borders, culture.

so you would be perfectly fine with being hauled off to jail just because you don't happen to have your passport on you while visiting the state of Arizona?

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."


Now I'm not comparing Arizona to Nazi Germany, as most conservatives here wouldn't hesitate to do (and have done), were the shoe on the other foot, but there are some undeniable paralleles: a group of people is being singled out based mainly on their appearance, and some of us being perfectly fine with it primarily because we don't think it could happen to us.

yep, THEY also come for people who break our laws or are criminals..(hu) .. because this country has a rule of law, or we (or some) still strive to have it..

I repeat, if you look like a foreigner and don't have the proper papers on you (who amongst us carries their passport around?), they will come for you.

One thing that I don't understand is how Republicans can reconcile their opposition to introduction of "federal ID" ("internal passport") and acceptance of the new Arizona law. If someone can clarify this to me, I'll appreciate that.

No need for an "internal passport", Алексей. Most people who are here legally carry a driver's license, a credit card, a job ID or some other form of identification. I am not necessarily 100% supportive of this law at the state level, but this is really an act of desperation on the part of Arizonians in light of total federal ineptitude.

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Well, but this is where my problem is. Usual driver's license (or any other ID) does NOT have your citizenship status and cannot be used for determination of your legal status. One would be required to show a federally-issued ID (passport, passport card or naturalization/birth certificate), which goes against this basic position of the Republican Party.
The only exception (of state-issued ID) is "enhanced" drivers license (for instance, issued by the state of Michigan), which can be used to travel to Canada. But this is not a mandatory ID.

I also "loved" how McCain swiftly commented on this law - that it's a measure reacting to inability of current Govment to secure the borders ( or something along the same lines) - give me break, where were you for the 8 yrs preceding this administration? - it is nearly impossible to do....
I think it's going to backfire....nobody wants to be stopped just for the heck of it. It is the same thing as they do in Moscow towards "litza kavkazskoj nacional'nosti".
What we need is the law that will allow all those people to find work legally and pay into our tax base, that supports their medical care in this country......And very very strict enforcement of legal employment.

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