Andrey's points well taken, I have another question that always arose in my mind when health care was discussed. What about education? How come education is perceived as outright and undeniable "right" in this country? Why don't we consider it a tangible service that should be provided to the ones that pay for it? And I mean elementary and secondary education, of course. K through High School. Maybe health care should have been done the same way, society pays for health care, until a person turns 18, and then, when a person is free to make lifestyle choices, it becomes an individual's responsibility, just like education. If you care about your future, pay for the diploma, also if you care for your future, pay for possible medical problems that you might have.

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All of the rights of American Citizens are outlined in the Constitution. If you cannot find the "right" in the Constitution, it means your perception does not equal the reality.
Education, Health Care, gay marriage, etc... are no where to be found in the above mentioned document.
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It's one thing to pay taxes to support government functions. It's a totally different thing to claim economic rights.
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up until your last few posts, I trully believed that you were the most reasonable conservative here - up until the point where you expressed your readiness to kill or be killed to deprive someone of access to health care. (md) this has nothing to do with economic rights, it boils down to your fundamental right to life, and believe you me there are people out there who will kill and be killed to provide food, shelter, and and health care for them and their families - if it should come down to that.

What about education? How come education is perceived as outright and undeniable "right" in this country?
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education shouldn't just be a right, it should be mandatory, as I believe it is in this and many other industrialized nations. as for higher education, I don't believe it should come down to who can afford it, but rather who can contribute the most to society when provided with an education. college admission should be based on merit alone - endowments, legacy status, and affirmative action (once all have access to the same quality of education) should not be factored in to the process...

Maybe health care should have been done the same way, society pays forhealth care, until a person turns 18, and then, when a person is freeto make lifestyle choices, it becomes an individual's responsibility,just like education.
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also a great way to spread an epidemic and other diseases when a person doesn't have the money for treatment. wouldn't be surprised if crime rate also went up - desperate times call for desperate measures. isn't this how revolutions start?

personally, I prefer to live in a society of healthy and educated people rather than be surrounded by sickness, ignorance, and want. but that just me, I guess others need to have someone worse off in order to feel better about themselves.

All of the rights of American Citizens are outlined in the Constitution.
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LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

there is no life without health...

gay marriage, etc... are no where to be found in the above mentioned document.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal
So that means that people that just sitting home and using the system, start working, maybe then they can get health insurance and not waiting on Mr.Obama to provide them free insurance on my cost i have the above rights as well.

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all men are created equal how does that make us all equal ?
It doesn't make us all equal, but does give us equal rights, presumably. But men constantly take those rights away from each other. And it will never stop. Because, if "all men created equal" guarantees gay marriage, according to someone, then the same rights should be extended to child molesters and such.

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